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#121 Bogong

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Posted 14 May 2012 - 06:29 AM

Well it's autumn in this country and true to form, all construction has been left to the last minute. Now that the snow is settling, there is a desperate scramble to finish both buildings and new lifts... Is this just an Australian phenomena or do resorts in the US and Canada also ignore the warm days of summer and only start building stuff when the weather starts to cool? It seems rather stupid to me, but all resorts in Australia seem to do this. :cursing:

Anyway, the resort of Mt Buller, near the city of Melbourne has been building a new fixed grip quad chairlift to serve lower altitude Green runs that replaces the Burnt Hut Spur triple chair that was nuked by a lightning strike just over 2 years ago.

Rather than the expected name of "Burnt Hut", they have called the lift "Bonzer", which is slang for terrific. This has everyone cringing and desperately trying to think of an alternative name, but the resort owner personally named it, so we will have to learn to live with it, :dry:

They helicoptered the towers in on 18 April and finished attaching the cable on 9 May. They are testing the lift with the back up diesel engine as the electricity hasn't been connected to the 100 kw electric motor yet. As of this morning three chairs have been attached.

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^ Bottom station a few days ago, just after the cable was strung.

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^ The top station this morning.

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^ Doppelmayr's name plate for the lift, showing that they still can't spell English words like Lenght". :whistling:

Mt Buller is a larger resort by Australian standards, with 23 lifts, 7,000 on-mountain beds and a good range of Green, Blue and Black runs.

The official resort web page for the lift construction with lots of other photos is at http://www.mtbuller....n/NEW-CHAIRLIFT

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#122 CH3skier

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Posted 18 May 2012 - 06:49 AM

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 10:01 AM

this video raises some questions in my mind http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-england-london-18080615

If the system is getting load tested now, how much longer could it take to get it open?

And how much $$ did those fancy towers and terminals enclosures add?

Overall the system is impressive, costly but impressive.

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Posted 22 May 2012 - 05:59 PM

I can't believe they have not determined a fair yet or have an expected opening date. The only thing that could be holding this back is that the buildings housing the terminals are a long way from being finished. However, at roughly $75 million (U.S), this was a huge waste of money.

Hopefully this won't be like the gondola that was built in New Orleans.

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 02:10 AM

I was down in london the other week, and I passed that gondola. Its typical of British construction work.. They estimated around £32mil for the entire project when it was put to the people of london to say yes, then 6 months down the line they are another 32mil down, and 6 months behind schedule because they probably couldnt get the right glue to stick the doppelmayr sign onto the terminal pillar.

All the construction of the lift is actually complete, they are just waiting on the civil engineers to finish the terminals.. Which could be years.

A little bit off topic, but how long does it usually take to install typical gondola on the hills (very general I know!)

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Posted 23 May 2012 - 06:07 AM

To answer your :offtopic: question.....
The new 10 passenger gondola being built by LPOA this year- Removal of the old lift began shortly after Vail closed for the season- Load Testing is scheduled for November 6th 2012.
I think your point about involving the Bureaucracy in the Terminal building is well taken.
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Posted 24 May 2012 - 10:33 PM

View Postjaytrem, on 10 February 2012 - 07:11 AM, said:

I think there's a good chance Haystack in VT will be building something this summer. For now they're still talking Chondola. So far the new owner has been spending a lot of cash.


The Chondola is not going to be installed this summer. They are going to fix Barnstormer and have that up and running for the 12-13 season. It will be most likely be relocated as a transfer lift on the mountain when the Chondola is installed!

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Posted 04 June 2012 - 07:06 PM

View Postjaytrem, on 28 April 2012 - 06:20 PM, said:

Jay Peak is adding a short quad to replace a dead t-bar, L-P maybe. Different allingment. They postponed the other upgrades, Boneventure 6, and move the current Boneventure to Jet.


The new quad was officially announced, it's a Dopp.

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Posted 07 June 2012 - 06:53 AM

Devil's Head, Wisconsin is putting in another new quad this year. Replacing Lift 1.

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Posted 16 June 2012 - 10:18 PM

Yes. It is a Doppelmayr.

In the picture are a few pieces that are ready to go for installation.

First week in April was when the picture was taken at Doppelmayr USA.

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Posted 19 June 2012 - 10:16 AM

Deer Valley posted on their facebook page that DeerCrest is being replaced with a High Speed Quad called Mountaineer Express.

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Posted 23 June 2012 - 05:27 PM

I noticed at Breckenride today, the Colorado lift has shiny new chairs on it, grips and all. The old grips are lined up slightly uphill of the Rocky Mtn Chair and the remaining parts of the old chairs are in a dirt lot where they store some snow-cat parts near the bottom of the Connect Gondola. They must be planning to use that lift a little longer now that new chairs are on it. Although lift #4 was taken down 2 years after it received new chairs so who knows.
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Posted 24 June 2012 - 08:25 PM

According to Leitner-Poma's new website, Earl Bales Ski Center in Toronto is getting a fixed quad. Also apparently Squaw's six pack will be L-P instead of Doppelmayr. And Granite Peak's high speed quad is notably absent from L-P's project list.

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Posted 30 June 2012 - 02:51 PM

Sundance Resort adding new ski lift this summer
Recreation » Salt Lake City-based company to build the fixed-grip quad.
By Mike Gorrell | The Salt Lake Tribune
First Published Jun 28 2012 08:15 pm • Last Updated Jun 29 2012 11:48 am

Sundance Resort is adding its first new chairlift in 17 years, a fixed-grip quad that will make it easier to hit the slopes on crowded days.

The chair will provide access to the mountain from the upper end of the overflow parking lot, eliminating the need for Sundance guests to take a shuttle bus from there to the base of the Provo Canyon resort owned by film star Robert Redford.

"On busy days, when you have to wait for a shuttle, and maybe the first one’s full, it’s a hassle. It’s been my biggest challenge," said Czar Johnson, director of Sundance’s mountain operations.

"It will serve guests interested in getting to the back mountain" with its expert skiing, he added, "and families will really appreciate it. If you’re up there with little kids, you can get them dressed in the parking lot, walk over to the lift and, boom, you’re on the mountain."

The not-yet-named lift is being installed this summer by Skytrac Inc., a Salt Lake City-based company headed by longtime lift builder Jan Leonard. He formerly was associated with the industry-leading firm now known as Doppelmayr USA Inc.

Riders will exit the lift on the ridge where the Lower Maverick run begins. More advanced skiers can drop off the back side to Flathead lift to ride to the upper mountain, Johnson said. Others can do laps on Maverick or take a cat-track over to runs served by Ray’s Lift.

"That means you can be skiing the back of the mountain within 15 minutes of parking your car," he said. "The way it’s been, it added up to 35 to 40 minutes before you were making some turns."

The new setup also eases access to Sundance’s terrain park off of Maverick run, Johnson said, noting that the snowmaking system is being expanded to cover the terrain park and nearby runs.

Including a ticket booth being added near the loading station, the improvements will exceed $2 million, he added.

Resort General Manager Chad Linebaugh said the decision to add a lift was made after lengthy deliberation.
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Posted 11 July 2012 - 09:40 AM



Deer Valley Blog...

Slow lifts: Endangered Species?



http://blog.deervall...angered-species


Not so long ago, most ski lifts were slow. They provided us with a chance to catch up, regroup, think about our technique, rest our legs and even munch on a sandwich or a bar. They also gave us a chance to talk. Talk about anything: from views, to snow quality, to weather, good restaurants or cool equipment; the list could go on forever… In those days, even though chairlifts could be painfully slow, we got to the top without realizing we had spent fifteen solid minutes hanging up in the air.

We had to wait until 1981 to see the first ever, high speed detachable quad in the world, installed in the Rocky Mountains. Since then, that precious “chair-time” has been rapidly eroding; at the best American resorts, high-speed chairlift are becoming the norm. Next winter, what used to be the perfect illustration for today’s subject, the Deer Crest chairlift, will undergo a total metamorphosis and in the process, will shed its fixed grips, its slow, easy pace, for a brand new detachable design that will whisk skiers, in less than half the time taken previously, to the top of the Jordanelle Gondola. In the process, it will also get rechristened “Mountaineer Express.”

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Back in February of 2010, I wrote a blog about chairlift stories, set back in a time where most chairlifts hanged to a fixed grip, moved up much more slowly and were the perfect place for telling, trading or making stories, as long as the company was receptive and the weather wasn’t extreme. Of course, things have changed a great deal with the spread of portable music players and the proliferation of smart phones. Now, a short life ride is all the time one needs for checking emails, tweeting or responding to a Facebook post. What I’m trying to say is that today, chairlifts have become more an opportunity to catch up on-line than striking a long and profound conversation. From that viewpoint, the demise of the slower lift might accompany the end of endless chat aloft. So much for long conversations or even for a quick lunch up in the air (Deer Valley restaurants are a much better culinary alternative anyway!)

And with the switch to faster ski-lifts what about our own, tired legs. I can think of many time when finally sitting down while riding up the mountain was a welcome relief! One might argue that nowadays skiers are much more fit and don’t generally look for the “rest” provided by a slow moving seat. I would add that with so many new spas available in and around Deer Valley, soothing options are today more easily available and have become so common-place that a tired pair of legs can soon be pampered and repaired into peak shape after a solid day of hard skiing. On the flip side, one aspect no one will miss with detachable chairlifts is the “bump” in the back of our calves that could be common place if we didn’t pay attention or if the lift attendants weren’t so kind to be holding (or bumping) the chair for us.

This creature-of-comfort consideration also brings up my last argument: Today, with much faster ski-lifts, the same amount of skiing that used to take an entire day, can be compressed into half that time thanks to these express chairlifts and there’s now more time for enjoying all the extra resort activities that have sprouted in recent years. We all know that multitasking doesn’t work too well, so why not ski more intensely for fewer hours on these state-of-the-art lifts and use up the extra time for a longer and much more civilized lunch break, some early après-ski, a shopping spree, a spa session or for discovering snowmobiling or a hike in snowshoes?

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So, well before the last slow chairlift is slated for demolition, Deer Valley Resort recognizes that some chairlifts should, for the time being, remain in the slow lane if you need to share very long stories or if you want to relax your legs for more than just six or eight minutes. I’m not talking about the few beginner lifts that are found on Wide West or the short connecting chairlifts that are spread all over the mountain, but bigger lifts like Mayflower or Red Cloud. They both run in parallel with a much faster chairlift and will also get you to the top, giving you much more time to catch your breath, enjoy the vistas and smell the snowflakes!

Of course, if that story has made you really nostalgic about slow chairlifts and you can’t wait until this winter to experience these slow, classic machines, now is the time to jump on any of Deer Valley’s express chairlifts when they’re running at low speed during the summer season to accommodate mountain bikers and pedestrians; that way you’ll be able to fully enjoy the ride, marvel at the scenery and trade some really good stories, but don’t delay, summer will soon be over!

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Posted 12 July 2012 - 04:20 AM

Speaking of fast lifts in Utah, there's talk of a Main Street Park City to Deer Valley gondola someday. It would start at the top of Main Street in a parking lot, and go to Silver Lake or Empire lodges, I suppose. Seems like a bit of a waste of money, especially since it would start in a low traffic part of town at the top of the hill, but we shall see. They're still talking for years about the Park City Town lift gondola, so I wouldn't hold your breath

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Posted 13 July 2012 - 06:55 PM

View Postboardski, on 23 June 2012 - 05:27 PM, said:

I noticed at Breckenridge today, the Colorado lift has shiny new chairs on it, grips and all. The old grips are lined up slightly uphill of the Rocky Mtn Chair and the remaining parts of the old chairs are in a dirt lot where they store some snow-cat parts near the bottom of the Connect Gondola. They must be planning to use that lift a little longer now that new chairs are on it. Although lift #4 was taken down 2 years after it received new chairs so who knows.


Well it means the Colorado SuperChair now is like the Falcon SuperChair: a 1980s Poma high speed quad with 21st century chairs. They are the same chairs that are used on the High Noon Express at Vail, with the unique footrests (which might require some adjusting to since these are different from the footrests on the other lifts at Breckenridge that have them).


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At tower 15, it seems compression sheaves were added, at least on the uphill side. I don't know if they're going to do the downhill side. This used to be a simple support tower:
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:49 PM

Any new lifts in Quebec announced?
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 12:59 PM

Bretton Woods is installing a 2,000 foot Doppelmayr T-bar to service an expansion onto Mt. Stickney.

http://brettonwoods....ickneyexpansion
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Posted 17 July 2012 - 02:38 PM

View PostPeter, on 17 July 2012 - 12:59 PM, said:

Bretton Woods is installing a 2,000 foot Doppelmayr T-bar to service an expansion onto Mt. Stickney.

http://brettonwoods....ickneyexpansion



Good day for lifts. Lookout Pass announced they're installing a triple they bought from Terry Peak for next year. Just a beginner lift though.

And Magic Mountain in ID is replacing a t-bar with a triple from Jackson Hole.

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