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[julestheshiba]

 lowerstation.jpg (71.83K)
Number of downloads: 95  lowerstation2.jpg (80.6K)
Number of downloads: 98Ellis Triple Homewood. Also Homewood has a Teigel platter which is super rare.

This post has been edited by julestheshiba: 20 May 2016 - 05:56 AM

[NHskier13]

That thiokol double looks like it has CTEC-style chairs minus the bail plus a center pole

[julestheshiba]

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Number of downloads: 49  topstation.jpg (64K)
Number of downloads: 51Actually I do believe that the Ellis chair was modified by CTEC at one point because the top is clearly CTEC (Actually it may just be the bullwheel). Although the Thiokol chairs are similar to CTECs first chairs as CTEC came out of Thiokol's remains.

This post has been edited by julestheshiba: 20 May 2016 - 12:10 PM

[Sacdelic_Skier]

I'm pretty sure he's talking about the snowbird double

[Smacpats]

Smacpats, on 19 May 2016 - 03:30 PM, said:

Chickadee at Snowbird, well is unique to say the least (1971 thokiol with these chairs)

Never mind, those chairs must not be one of a kind. At least that lift is the only one operating in the US with those chairs. It looks for the most part the same except for backpads:


(it's Summit at Solitude, a 1982 CTEC double replaced in 2015 by a Dopplemayr High speed quad)

EDIT:
Scrap anything about them being rare, my bad not knowing what Thokiol Center poles look like :(

Old Apex and Powderhorn at Solitude:

This post has been edited by Smacpats: 20 May 2016 - 01:02 PM

[Sacdelic_Skier]

notice the different armrests. the one at bird is different

[Smacpats]

Sacdelic_Skier, on 20 May 2016 - 04:42 PM, said:

notice the different armrests. the one at bird is different

I am not noticing the minor differences, but the structure is the same. Thats what I was pointing out.

[sheave]

iceberg210, on 19 May 2016 - 06:19 AM, said:

Sometime I need to head back to Bear Gulch, was there this last winter and didn't see much, then again I didn't go too far either as falling several feet into the snow with each step got old quick. Should have had some snow shoes or something.

The lift at Blizzard originally came from Beaver Mtn in Utah, although I don't know the manufacture. It originally had wood towers so it may well have been effectively a homebuilt, either that or if I had to take a wild guess a CONSTAM. Much of the parts have been replaced over the years with improvised replacements so its' harder than ever to figure out what it originally was.

Best of luck on looking for more lifts etc! Always fun to look through and explore old lost resorts and lifts (when permission and access is available ;) )

If you make it back to Bear Gulch, please send me some pictures from the bottom terminal. I was only able to spot the first tower.

So far I wasn't really lucky. The Riblet triple at Keystone, SD was closed when I drove by. Then I've been to Great Bear in Sioux Falls (couldn't really figure out who built the quad) and just had a quick look at the ski area. I skipped both the Hall/Sky Trans double at Omaha Zoo and the Hall double at Mt. Crescent (maybe they run the quad for their zip line). At Des Moines' fairground they had taken the chairs off their 1975 Sky Glider (just the chairs, not the the rest up to the grip) and everything from the 2002 Sky Glider (does someone know who built these lifts?) - but I knew before that the lifts are only operating during the State Fair. The Borvig quad at Sleepy Hollow wasn't operating, too. Let's see if there is anything interesting on my way down south.

What about the double chair at Adventureland in Des Moines. They say it's the old Skyride from the 1974 World Fair in Spokane (but that was a Riblet, or did it get new towers and chairs)?

I'm also wondering where the chair at Kansas Zoo came from?

Smacpats, on 19 May 2016 - 03:30 PM, said:

Chickadee at Snowbird, well is unique to say the least (1971 thokiol with these chairs)

Pretty ugly chairs if you ask me (but it is interesting how they build something aroud the bottom terminal).

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[Allan]

julestheshiba, on 20 May 2016 - 12:09 PM, said:

liftline2.jpg topstation.jpgActually I do believe that the Ellis chair was modified by CTEC at one point because the top is clearly CTEC (Actually it may just be the bullwheel). Although the Thiokol chairs are similar to CTECs first chairs as CTEC came out of Thiokol's remains.

CTEC's bulllwheels were based on Thiokol's design. We've got a 1976 Thiokol and a 2007 Doppelmayr/CTEC - the bullwheels are similar.

[julestheshiba]

The original Thikol bullwheels look like this  topstation-1.jpg (58.76K)
Number of downloads: 111But the CTEC ones look like this  topstation.jpg (49.62K)
Number of downloads: 106. Notice the difference in bullwheels.

[Allan]

Oh, I know there are differences, that's why I said they are similar, not the same! The liner pinch rings are on the top on Thiokols and on the bottom on CTECs, there are three 'channels' on the Thiokol, the liner is in the centre one; only one channel on the CTEC, etc.

[liftmech]

sheave, on 09 May 2016 - 08:01 PM, said:

So is there an almost original Thiokol left (outside of Colorado)? I'm a bit confused now. :)

Not sure if lost ski areas are also a topic for this forum, but I would be also interested in visiting some, especially when the lifts are still standing (like in Marble, CO or the Riblet double in Gatlinburg - so it must not be a ski area). I know New England is a paradise in this regards, but there must be some more lifts rusting between Washington and Vermont.

Chair 7 at Crystal. 1974, relocated to a different spot in 1982.

[julestheshiba]

Allan, on 23 May 2016 - 08:32 PM, said:

Oh, I know there are differences, that's why I said they are similar, not the same! The liner pinch rings are on the top on Thiokols and on the bottom on CTECs, there are three 'channels' on the Thiokol, the liner is in the centre one; only one channel on the CTEC, etc.

I thought you were saying that what I had said was not true.

[Smacpats]

Not rare, but stratton's 1976 Borvig and 1971 Heron-poma (1st is triple, second is poma) are getting ancient. I think the bottom terminal of the borvig is close to collapsing!



Both of them have lived good long lives.

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[julestheshiba]

Tamarack seems reparable.

[NHskier13]

Doesn't look like it's in bad shape to me, maybe I just didn't pay much attention to detail. Either way as long as that metal structure is held up that's all it really needs. The wood replaces the terminal cover essentially, I think.

[julestheshiba]

maybe just some welds, new paint, and better roofing and it would be perfect

[fireonthemountain]

I don't recall any roeblings at cannon mountain the old peobody and the hong kong were one of a kind built by a company who built trollys all over the country and I think the tbars were doppels...I may be wrong and I will get the name of the company who built the cannon lifts

[NHskier13]

Zoomer

[Yooper Skier]

fireonthemountain, on 25 May 2016 - 12:51 PM, said:

I don't recall any roeblings at cannon mountain the old peobody and the hong kong were one of a kind built by a company who built trollys all over the country and I think the tbars were doppels...I may be wrong and I will get the name of the company who built the cannon lifts

Hong Kong was a Pullman-Berry. One of seven built by them.